It's been a long time coming, but we're finally here! The first flashy round table for The Flash. Prepare to participate as we discuss favorite moments, first impressions and more.
Join TV Fanatics Jim Garner, Hank Otero, Tanya Moat, Carissa Pavlica and Narsimha Chintaluri as they dig into The Flash Season 1 Episode 1 below...
What were your overall impressions of the premiere?
Jim: I really liked it! There were actually several points where I exclaimed out loud in joy just from nods to the comics or some of the visual effects and shot setup that made it feel very "live action comic."
Hank: That's easy! Of all the new pilots I watched this season, The Flash is easily the best. The creative team hit all the right notes and I fell for the characters right away. Of course, introducing Barry Allen in Arrow was brilliant because he already feels like an old friend.
Tanya: Fantastic and eager to re-watch, which doesn't happen often. Flash has been the premiere that I was looking forward to the most and it confidently delivered. Grant Gustin was perfectly cast as Barry Allen. He does a great job of capturing both the joy of discovering you have superpowers and also the fear of realizing what that means.
Carissa: I agree with everyone above. It felt like we were revisiting an old friend and getting to know him better. His joy at discovering superpowers is addicting and I just want to see him happy and heroic. What more could you want from a premiere?
Narsimha: To be honest, I loved it mainly because I'm a fan of shows like this, Arrow, Smallville, etc. I think it has the same flaws that Arrow still has to this day - clunky dialog and spotty acting. There's definitely some perfecting casting here (Grant Gustin is great), but the quality isn't uniformly as good. And great dialog hasn't always been the selling point for shows like this.
So that being said, I think shows like The Flash and Arrow work because of their plot. How gripping and interesting they usually, how exciting and downright addictive. It's why I could power through whatever scene I had to with Thea or Laurel on Arrow when I was binge watching it last year. The plot kept proving to be worth the diligence. I hope The Flash follows in suit, as I really loved the comic book aesthetics and the fluid directing. They had a lot to cover this episode, so I can only see it getting better when the episodes are more focused.
Starling City and Central City are 600 miles apart. WHAT?! React.
Jim: DC has always played it a bit fast and loose with distances between the cities. To put in perspective, New York to Detroit is just over 600 miles, so it doesn't seem that unreasonably far. I'm pretty sure the writers wanted to have them far enough apart so that stories don't (or won't ) feel like they should be overlapping into both cities.
Hank: Were the two cities supposed to be closer or further apart? I honestly didn't think twice about the distance. I mean Barry got there in a Flash right? That's what stood out for me.
Tanya: Okay, this is where I confess that I am not overly familiar with either Arrow or Flash's canons. I agree with Jim that it was a deliberate choice. They want them close, but with enough distance so their stories could be reasonably contained within each of their shows. And it was just cool to see Barry run there too.
Carissa: I asked this because Felicity and friends were going back and forth quite frequently on Arrow Season 2 and the idea of sending a young forensics kid from 600 miles away really makes it sound fr. Additionally, they even had an event at STAR Labs with a big chase scene and all that -- they took 9 hours to motorcycle over there? Damn.
Narsimha: I'm not familiar with any of the comics so I really don't know what to comment on, but I hope this doesn't cancel out any future Oliver Queen cameos. I, for one, sort of like the idea of both types of villains from each city crossing over for mass mayhem.
Share your favorite scene or quote.
Jim: As a huge fan of the 90s Flash show on CBS, I loved it when John Wesley Shipp walked in as Barry's dad! In addition (as mentioned above), seeing some of the Flash's signature moves had me cheering several times.
Hank: The Flash visiting Starling City to ask Arrow for advice. I'm just ridiculously giddy these two Justice Leaguers exist in the same TV universe. Oliver telling Barry to take his own advice "use a mask" and each guy acknowledging how "cool" the other one is... Gives me goosebumps every time. Can you imagine when Episode 8, the big crossover event, airs? I'll be talking about it for the rest of the season.
Tanya: Like Hank, I loved the scene between Barry and Oliver, and I cannot wait until they have a true crossover episode. It will be epic! But my favorite scene is Barry recognizing he has super speed and screaming with joy as he runs faster and faster. There is such light in him, which pretty much makes him different than all the other superheroes on TV right now.
Carissa: Definitely Barry and Henry. "You believing me is all I need." Oh the feels! Oliver was right. Barry is inspirational. His unending hope makes the father/son scenes all the more poignant.
Narsimha: Even though I was a bit blurry on their prior relationship from Arrow, the scene where both dudes met on a rooftop in Starling City was class. I t was pretty insightful to see Oliver say Barry could be a type of symbol he could never be, and then the dual "cools" in the end really got me. I was grinning from ear to ear when Oliver swung off the roof Batman style.
What character holds the least interest for you and why?
Jim: I'm kind of liking the whole cast at the moment. That being said, Cisco was initially the most annoying, but after he made the lightning bolts on Flash's mask and chest more than just decoration I decided I really liked him.
Hank: He's gone (I think) but Weather Wizard. Though the visual effects were fantastic, the character was very one-note. He served his purpose in the pilot, but I'm ready for some more complex baddies. Captain Cold (Leonard Snart) is sure to delight!
Tanya: Easy – Iris. Many superhero girlfriends or love interests appear to solely exist for that reason (and to be saved), so they tend to be really boring and dumb. You saved me a gazillion times, but I never once realized your alter ego, Batman, Superman and so on.
Carissa: I'm with Tanya. I wouldn't even want to have coffee with Iris let alone have a crush on her. She's insipid and irresponsible with little compassion or understanding of other breathing beings. Like I said in The Flash Season 1 Episode 1 review, they're going to need to do a lot of work to redeem her in my eyes.
Narsimha: Cisco sucks. And Iris seems like she's going be another cardboard supporting character (her dad is probably going to be awesome though).
What are your theories on Harrison Wells?
Jim: My first bet is that Harrison is Barry from 2024. BUT, then again, did anyone else make the connection that Harrison Wells (or H. Wells) could also be a nod to H. G. Wells, who wrote "The Time Machine"? And, given that he was looking at a paper from the future, maybe he IS actually H G! - Mind. Blown.
Hank: My first impression after he stood up from his wheelchair was "this guy's got secrets, and he's a liar." The fact he's from 2024 can mean he's either there to guide and help Barry in order to avoid the "Infinite Crisis" scenario or he's Reverse-Flash. Where's that leave Eddie Thawne then? Very cool catch Jim, I didn't make the H. G. Wells connection. If Harrison Wells is Barry, the writers are getting into some major time paradoxes early on.
Tanya: I'm still trying to sort through that last minute revelation. He's obviously keeping secrets, but to hurt or to help? I don't know. If he is there to hurt Barry, then he is hiding it very well. My spidey sense never tingled in any of their earlier interactions. I have more questions than theories at this point. Harrison is going to make a formidable foe or friend, which is really exciting and what matters most to me.
Carissa: Jim, you brilliant bastard! What if he is H.G. Wells? He created a time machine, after all. Maybe he is a version of him kind of in the way that Wells was representative of the real Wells on Warehouse 13. A funky kind of scientist instead of only an author. I like it! Honestly, it was difficult not to believe Wells had good intentions for Barry during the RUN, BARRY RUN moment, so I want him to be good.
Narsimha: No effing clue. I had no idea what was going on at the end there, but color me curious (and clueless). They violent way he said "you're not a hero Barry," seemed sort of foreboding to me.
And here's your first look at The Flash Season 1 Episode 2, "The Fastest Man Alive."
Carissa Pavlica is the managing editor and a staff writer for TV Fanatic. Follow her on Twitter.