Veronica: So obviously that whale thing is a winner, or you wouldn't be telling me it's a loser.
Elijah: Unless it's really a loser, and I'm pretending it's a loser to make you think it's a winner.
Veronica: Or I'm pretending to think it's a winner, when I actually know it's a loser because you said it's a loser to make me think it's a winner.
Elijah: And so... the student becomes the master.
Veronica: Or the student has always been the master, and just wanted the master to think the master was the master when he was actually just the student.
Elijah: These conversations are why your mother left us.
Veronica: That, and the fact you porked my way through my sorority