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I was right...won't spoil it for you West Coasters, but bad, bad, bad ending.....Ziva is not hurt, will tell you that.
Amen to that...Frankly I dont understand all the whinging and complain about Ziva and all episodes focus on her...All of them have had their fare share of episodes and honestly I see more episodes focus on Gibbs and Tony than anyone else.
The episodes in which Ziva had bad ratings if you look at them closely were put at the end of the season (with the exception of Shalom). If you actually look at the ratings you will see a common pattern. Ratings tend do drop towards the end of the season. It's not Cote de Pablo's fault that they always leave her story lines for last!
The fact is NCIS' ratings have only gotten better since the character of Ziva has been on the show. I love Ziva's character, it gives the show a bit of a mix. For all those complainers, the last time we saw Eli David was two years ago in season 8 and before that at the start and end of Season 6. So to say we've had to many Mossad/Eli episodes is ridiculous.
These are the facts people. If you don't like Ziva's charatcer fine, but don't whine about Ziva having to many episodes or Eli being on the show so much when cold hard facts show this isn't true. Don't do a @Michael & complain about ratings but because if you actually take the time to look a
Your theory about the ratings is so off, maybe you should actually look at the statistics. Season 3's Undercovers ranked 4th & Boxed In was 10th out of 24 episodes In season 4 the episode dead man walking was 9th also out of 24 episodes. In Season 7 which has been the most Ziva-centred season so far the Ziva centred episodes were all in the top 10 ranking episodes the episode Reunion tying for top place, except for Jet Lag & that came 12th out of 24 episodes, so not what I'd call dropped ratings for Ziva episodes. In fact Season 7 has the 3rd highest ratings of all the NCIS seasons to date. In Season 8 the Ziva-centred episodes came 12th and 14th out of 24 episodes. Finally in Season 9 the ONLY Ziva episode was the most watched episode for the season and the ONLY episode to have more than 21 million viewers.
The episodes in which Ziva had bad ratings if you look at them closely were put at the end of the season (with the exception of Shalom). If you actually l
For those complaining about the number of Ziva related episodes please get your facts right, Except for season 7 Ziva has had maybe one or two episodes per season that focuses solely on her in contrast to Gibbs and DiNozzo who have a lot more.
Season 3 - Jeopardy. Ziva also has Under Covers & Boxed in but she shares the focus with DiNozzo
Season 4 - Shalom & Dead Man Walking
Season 5 - Recoil
Season 6 - Aliyah
Season 7 - The first four episodes were pretty Ziva centric and then she had Jet Lag with Tony.
Season 8 - Enemies Foreign (which you can almost claim is shared with Vance) and Two-Faced where we meet Ray Cruz for the 1st time.
Season 9 - A desperate Man
So having two episodes focusing on Ziva is pretty much consistent with what's been going on till now. As for carrying whatever happens on through out the rest of the series don't you think she deserves it? After Jeanne even when it wasn't a 'Tony' episode he still showed signs of his experience
Gatorgal~ Your theory about Jackie makes sense. I wonder if Vance will end up leaving town or quit NCIS. However, I hope Eli isn't dying b/c that would be a repeat of a repeat of a repeat (Franks & Jenny). The writers are to wise to play that story for a third time. I hope they don't kill Eli.
Now that I got that out of the way,SPECULATION ALERT: I think Jackie Vance is going to die, which will "rock Vance's world" and that either ELi will also be killed or that he came back to Ziva for redemption because he is dying, thus next week's episode "Shiva"- seven days of mourning. I know from the promo pics that the Vance's share one of the three Shabbat meals with Eli and Ziva, but I am not aware that they are also Jewish. And there is a minister in "Shiva" and the kids are in the episode, which strengthens my premise that Jackie Vance is going to die.
@ soum: What do you mean he is going to be a daddy again? Are you referring to Michael Weatherly? I had not heard they were expecting again so soon.
@ PAOLA RAMOS: I dislike the Ziva haters as well, however your comment was as rude or more rude, and I really do not appreciate the foul language. Where are the monitors? I have asked this question before and I must assume there are none.
@ Simple - as long as they can portray Ziva as the poor tragic noble victim, absolutely nothing is off the table. They've done a couple amnesia episodes, but again, they seem to be repeating themselves these days.
its the same haters hating ziva could it be jealousy.i just know with ziva being the star it will be a great episode because without ziva ncis just wouldnt work.as for the haters dont watch you wont be missed.
I like that you can see Ziva's depth---less is more! LOL. By the way I had another thought.....no its not what you're thinking.........here's my thought: What if Ziva loses her memory and returns to being a Massad sp? killer? I can't beleive that I just started getting into NCIS this summer and I'm so hooked on this show!
Wow - that post was filled with same kind of depth as Ziva herself. Now let me get this straight - do you like Ziva?
I like Ziva...did I mention that I like Ziva? Oh yea I Like Ziva! And yes....I like Ziva. Ok enough already......I like Ziva.....what can I say I like Ziva! lol. Tuesday can't get here fast enough. By the way...no I wasn't going to say I like ZivA---did anybody notice how Vance seems to be missing from this promo? Is he leaving? Any ideas on what exactly "rocks his world?"
You think the rating would tell the writers how sick we are of Ziva since ever time she the center of the show rating drop
ilove tonyyy soooooo much, and i´m happy fot him that his is going to be a father again, i will like to play in ncis!! i can play a dutch girl in D.c!!
PEOPLE STOP WITH THE ZIVA HATING OK!!!! ALL OF THE CHARACTERS ARE HAVING A BACKSTORY EPISODE.....JUST BECAUSE ZIVA IS THE FIRST DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO HATE ON HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MCGEE IS GETTING AN EPISODE ....ABBY IS GETTING AN EPISODE AND TONY JUST HAD AN EPISODE!!!!!!!!!!!!!SO NOT EVERYTHING REVOLVES AROUND HER!!! AND BESIDES IS A SHO YOU LITTLE WINNY BIT**ES !!!!!!! THERE ARE MORE SEASONS AND BEFORE THAT I RECALL THAT THERE HAVE BEEN ZIVA EPISODES TONY EPISODES(CAUSE ALMOST ALL OF SEASON 4 REVOLVED AROUND TONY) AND GIBBS EPISODES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IM JUST MAD AT THE STUPID HATING ON HER ..........GOSH !!!!! JUST SHUT THE fUCK UP!!!!!!!!!!!!
2012 was not a good year for NCIS let hope 2013 is better and let hope that The Tiva fans learn to be nice to the NCIS fans
Re: Simple posted 12-29-2012 3:44p
* Is it possible that Tony and Ziva have been carying on a relationship all along (off/on)?
There have been several hints on their having a relationship i.e. the trip to Paris, photos taken by Eli's minions of Tony and Ziva showing up at each others' homes in the dead of night. Even when they played married assassins the romantic scenes were more than just co-workers carrying out an assignment.
Wow, so many anti Ziva comments! I think she is a fantastic part of the team, I did like Kate but Ziva is much more interesting. Do the women hate her because they feel threatened? Are the men jealous because they could never attract a woman like Ziva? When I have very negative reactions to characters, I simply stop watching. Why pollute this forum; it's for fans not critics especially the irrational ones. The cast is great, they are a family (wish I was part of that)and Gibbs will always be my fantasy man.
I am so excited for this episode. Ziva is my favorite character (although I must say I love them all!). I like that they are giving us a peek at all of their backgrounds/childhoods. I enjoyed Tony's memories of his mother & the Christmas ep with his dad and I understand we are to meet Tim's father and meet "young" Abby. I think Michael Weatherly was correct, season 10 is shaping up to be the best season yet. I love Michael Nouri and I'm really excited to see him back on NCIS. I am a Tiva fan & do hope the bond between Tony & Ziva continues to strengthen through this season. I am past ready for it.
SInce it's a given that Ziva has to be victimized, I think it's likely that Ziva will be injured at the end of Shabbat Shalom and Shiva will consist of multiple Ziva flashbacks as she languishes in a coma - a sort of Life Before His Eyes - only in two parts with Ziva as the focus instead of Gibbs. Of course the team will be beside themselves with upset and worry and Ziva's virtues and heroics will be expanded upon as they suffer the wait. You heard it here first.
I am a little confused. I didn't mean to say I knew any spoilers for "Shiva". Also I was just speculating about what could happen in "Shabbat Shalom" so sorry if I caused any confusion to anyone else, I did not mean to and sorry if this comment does not make sense :).
@ nonname: THere is absolutely NO info out there for "SHIVA", the next episode, probably because it would give out the shocking details of "SHABBAT SHALOM", except for one item and it regards your SPOILER ALERT: Gabi Coccio has been cast as "young Ziva David". I read on another spoiler site that Ziva would be remembering or we the audience would get the chance to relive parts of her childhood, could be Eli talking about them. I think Eli is a goner, either he dies in "SS" or reveals to Ziva he is dying. I also think Jackie Vance is circling the drain, which would definately "rock Vance's world."
I love Ziva. She's my favorite character like in the world. I would love to the the day when she and Tony get together and rule twelve goes up in flames. ^^
@Simple - Hi. Don't worry about the haters. There's NOT a lot of them at all; they are the tiny, INSIGNIFICANT minority who mean nothing to the rest to the mass audience who is CRAZY about this cast - especially Ziva & Abby. In fact, the haters on THIS site like to troll around and post under different names, to make it look like they are "many". We always know, though.
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