Pretty Little Liars Review: The Big BetrAyal Comments (Page 3)
93 Comments
missm
August 29th, 2012 10:10 AM
I really can't shake the feeling that Spencer had something to do with Ali's death. I just find it strange that considering she is supposed to be the sharpest of the girls, she keeps springing from one suspect to another, absolutely convinced every single time that they are A or Ali's killer. When she had that breakdown about Garrett being released on the charges of Ali's murder, it just made me think that she desperately wants someone to take the blame for it so that she can be off the hook. I'm not necessarily saying that she did it, but I do think there's more to her involvement in it.
tori
August 29th, 2012 10:09 AM
I just have one thing to say about last night's episode... OMFG!
Hookified(dande) Rank: Regular Character
August 29th, 2012 10:00 AM
I hate that they broke my Spiny heart but I am kinds not surprised. If you think from the beginning then Toby was a likely choice. We all knew Nate was the creepy stalked boyfriend so no surprise there. I still think Paige is hiding something.
Nikki 6
August 29th, 2012 9:51 AM
OMG OMG was pretty much all I could say the entire night. When Mona was leaving back into the looney bin and they showed the person in the hoodie, I was like "you beeter turn around and show the face or I am gonna be pissed' but did not expect Toby, i was like HOLY SH*T. My heart was racing the whole time, BEST EPISODE. Cause it still has be guessing:
*Caleb was acting weird the whole episode, how did he know Emily was in the light house?
*How did Caleb get shot? Did Emily shoot him, was "Nate" not dead yet and he shot him?
*Is Toby really part of team A or just trying to help or get info?
My girlfriend has a theory that actually makes me go HMMMMM. At the end of the episode before the finale we saw that there was at least 2 more A's besides Mona. She came up with the thought, what if there is an A for each of the girls?? Things that make you go HMMMMMM
db
August 29th, 2012 9:45 AM
i think garret is the other A. i mean A called emily told her "i owe you one" wasn't it emily's discovery of maya's real killer the reason garrett got ou of jail. maybe that's what A meant. i was shocked as hell when i saw toby in that hoodie. i love spencer and him together.:(
anjich333
August 29th, 2012 9:05 AM
god, i love spencer and toby, i was really disapointed when i saw him as A. But than i remembered that one scene from season one, when Spencer is running and she sees Toby in that alley, and he was crying because everyone were avoining him and giving him the hard time because everyone taught he killed Aly. Remember that? If he was on A team, you really thnik that he would care for that? People on A team are evil and cruel, people on A team wouldn't cry in some dark alley, so i honestly don't thnik he is one of them.
de
August 29th, 2012 9:02 AM
i think Toby is on the A team but the protect the girls and trying to figure out who Mona is working for, but the question is how long has he been on A team, cause Toby and Spencer are like one they love each other every much, and he maybe called Emily to tell her to get out of the house and at the end when the girls got the call "Emily i owe you one" what does he/she mean by that i'm still trying to figure that out myself i got confused when i heard that from A, that was probably Toby and he is still on the Liars side but working on double side to protect the girls... i hope i'm not wrong, cause i love Toby and Spencer together their my favorite couple and i don't no else with Spencer or Toby..
Spindae 2.o Rank: Recurring Character
August 29th, 2012 8:55 AM
@Niki
- If Toby is an accomplice with Mona then
who was the 'RED JACKET' girl in the last
season finale?
Ans: Last week we saw 2 A's while Mona was in the hospital! There are many A's to discover.
- When the girls entered the cabin, Paige
was not there...her hands were tied
together. How did she disappear in
minutes?
Ans: there were 2 cabins. The girls went to the wrong one.
- What made Caleb suddenly go to the
cabin?
Ans: he figured out that A is just screwing with them and thought A had Em!
- They haven't kept Ezra and Wren in the
show for no reason. Ezra has become
boring and Wren needs to stop eyeing
girls below 18! There is definitely more to
them!
Ans: doubt they are team A!
- WHAT IS LUCAS's STORY? Ans: hopefully we find out in S3 part 2!
b
August 29th, 2012 8:50 AM
Did anyone else notice the rocking chair in a's lair I noticed it but didnt want to put two and two together Toby working with mona I think he either thinks spencers guilty or working some agenda
Niki
August 29th, 2012 8:43 AM
I have a few question...
- If Toby is an accomplice with Mona then who was the 'RED JACKET' girl in the last season finale?
- When the girls entered the cabin, Paige was not there...her hands were tied together. How did she disappear in minutes?
- What made Caleb suddenly go to the cabin?
- Is Emily apart of the A team as she loved Allie and love can make you do strange things? :s (I hope I am wrong)
- They haven't kept Ezra and Wren in the show for no reason. Ezra has become boring and Wren needs to stop eyeing girls below 18! There is definitely more to them!
- WHAT IS LUCAS's STORY?...still unanswered by the show & what was in the negatives which Aria had stolen from him?
I'm still not sure that this wasn't some kind of red herring but if it isn't then there has to be another A. First because I don't think Toby would ever wear a jacket like the one whoever visited mona at the end of season two had and there's something i found odd too in this episode. If we already knew the identity of the other A (A.K.A. Toby) why would he use some kind of voice modifier to get those tickets to the Halloween party?
R
August 29th, 2012 8:40 AM
I was sort of hoping that Ezra would be the 'BetrAyer'....but God forbid they make perfect little pedophile Ezra bad! Sheesh. Enough with those two already..move on. And saying that Aria should 'grow up'. UM...she's 16yrs old! Stop thinking she's going to act like an adult just because she's sleeping with one. She is just a teenager and she's acting like it.
Poor Spence - oh well - move on. I don't think Emily shot Caleb...why would she do that? I think Nate got up and took a shot. Guess we'll have to wait.
pennfan24 Rank: Regular Character
August 29th, 2012 8:33 AM
toby...is A. god i hated it when they revealed that. spencer and toby are my favorite couple on the show and they're the only second couple ever i have ever shipped on a tv show. my first ship was dair on gossip girl and that was totally massacared and now spoby is headed that way too. i always thought toby loved spencer earnestly and with all his heart, i just hope that all that is not made to look like a lie and fake and toby has some genuine reason to be in the A team. please it seems im cursed and i can never get my ships to last. Alas!
korsakovf
August 29th, 2012 8:17 AM
Maybe Emily shot Caleb so she could say it was Nate who shot Caleb, because they were afraid the self defense story wouldn't stick..
Toby begin on the A team was a really big shock to me. I suspected him in the first season, but didn't still think it could be him. So I still don't really believe it until I see more of him. I do like it that we now know a bit more than the liars do. Can't wait for Halloween and January.
And the Ezra-Maggie story.. I don't really care.
Nikki
August 29th, 2012 8:08 AM
I laughed so much when Hannah says to Caleb with the lamp at hand "I almost killed you" and Caleb says "With a pink furry lamp Hannah?!" :D (Btw, he has a key to the house???)
I also liked the conversation the girls had at the start of the episode at Spencer's house trying to point to Paige being A. The girls where having an analytical conversation just like we analyse all things together lately in the comments. I felt connected. lol.
Nikki
August 29th, 2012 8:07 AM
BEST EPISODE EVEEEER!
So Jenna had seen Nate and Maya together as a couple. She did not trust him when she learnt that he was lying about being a cousin?! Or did she saw scarrier stuff???
Caleb could have shot himself so that Emily had a reason (for the police) to stab Nate. Like, they were fighting (Nate and Caleb) and Emily stabbed Nate to save Caleb after Nate shot him. If the police had found Emily killing a guy they would think Emily was a killer (in general, I mean they'd think she killed Ali and others). How would Emily prove that Nate was trying to kill her?
Toby was probably the one who called Emily and told her to leave and she had a minute before Nate went back in bringing wood. He was following Emily to keep her safe I hope. I was sure about Toby being on the A-team but I hope he and Mona became part of the A-team to help the girls.
I laughed so much when Hannah says to Caleb with the lamp at hand "I almost killed you" and Caleb says "With a pink furry lamp Hann
chair4ever
August 29th, 2012 7:00 AM
okay my emotions right now.. OMG!! it's actually funny that I saw it coming. I found it weird how Toby would just disappear to somewhere or the other and I was just thinking you know how he was the suspect in the first season and then his name got cleared, i dont know it made perfect sense for him to be on the A team but yet I just.. he's one of my favorite characters! AHHHH!! Also how did Caleb get shot? Didn't Emily kill Nate? And if she didnt and he was able to get the gun and shoot Caleb, did Emily jab the knife in him again?
Spindae 2.o Rank: Recurring Character
August 29th, 2012 6:50 AM
I can't believe they destroyed SOBY! I really loved them! They are so great together and she loved him so much! Why do we have to break her heart, just after they slept with each other! :(((
I'm glad we will see now how A works behind the shadows! :D
Okay he was the obvious choice but just liked Mona he was on mission "A" and than he was shown to be part of the Team!
I remeber they were on Toby hunt at the start of the show but I don't remember why they stopped. oK Em believd he was innocent but was that enough! Now I have to reWatch S1!
Ezria drama is getting on my nervs.
hanna and caleb are sugar sweet, and who shoot Caleb? Toby?????
H
August 29th, 2012 6:07 AM
I knew Toby was A from the minute i saw his face when he hugged Spencer..YESS!! I'm so glad Toby is A! It makes perfect sence, and i love how tv-shows make perfect sence! :D
Rally
August 29th, 2012 5:38 AM
OMG I WAS THINKING OF SCREAM RULES THE WHOLE TIME TOO!
leanne
August 29th, 2012 5:29 AM
its getting too muddled. seson 2 (Part one) someone frames ian for alis murder and pushes him off the bell tower to save spencer and then takes his body for it to be found a few weeks later with a suicide note that has secret messages A sent to the girl. if A either killed Ali or they know each other to make the note. . The seasons 2 (part one ) final A sends the liars out to find dr sulivan but leads them to Alis murder weapon which they planted but garret and jenna knew about that and that it was going to be there like they planned it to and they admitted attacking ali but they didnt kill her they left her someone else buried the body. so mona and toby are working together to get garrett out by framing paige then nate confessed to killing her
Hi all!!as i was reading the other comments it came to my mind the time that mona was about to leave Rosewood and Wren convinced hanna to keep her there.. what about Wren???and in the 11th episode we saw 2 in hoodie..was mona one of them??or she was in the clinic and 2 where out there?? Sorry for my english :)
Scary Expert
August 29th, 2012 4:55 AM
I know this is a little off-topic and random but two things in this episode reminded me of the rules for surviving horror films from Scream (film series).
1. Always watch who you sleep or have a relationship with aka never have sex. (For example, Sidney & Billy and Spencer & Toby).
2. NEVER...NEVER...turn your back on the villain. 'Never ever assume the killer is dead!!!!!!!!!!' (in my Randy Meeks (Jamie Kennedy's) voice.)
Ludovica
August 29th, 2012 4:36 AM
If this was a different kind of show I would guess Emily shot Caleb. She might have been in shock and shot him cause he saw she killed Nate and she didn't want anyone to know. of course this would have been irrational but people who are in shock are not rational at all. anyways this is not a likely scenario in a show like this cause they have a thousand more insteresting explanations.
Maybe it was Paige who escaped from the cabin. It was dark at times and she was in shock as well, so she might have thought Caleb was Nate, afterall she had no clue that he was there!
The only one having a motif to hurt him his Wren: he may or may not be on the A team (but I guess he is and that's how Mona got that pass), but he definitely wants Caleb out of the picture so that he can have Hanna all to himself.
The whole gun situation was very predictable, how Marissa Cooper of Caleb... I thought he was smarther than that but that's probably what was needed to make the storyline work.
Betty Draper Rank: Recurring Character
August 29th, 2012 4:07 AM
Everyone seems to think that Toby is doing this to protect the girls but wake up- he is evil. From the beginning.
He probably killed Ali. I never really understood his tattoo of the date of her disappearing anyway.
We are talking about someone who stole a BODY from a grave!! Someone who pulled all of Ali' s teeth just to scare Emily. He took the picture of the body bag and sent it to Spencer so clearly it was him. He is bad and it's gonna get even worse.
Mona just gave the web site name so the girls would think it was Paige so they'd think that she is A. And they needed Maya's bag for some reason.
I'm actually happy that we got someone who could really pull this shit of as A.
August 29th, 2012 10:10 AM
I really can't shake the feeling that Spencer had something to do with Ali's death. I just find it strange that considering she is supposed to be the sharpest of the girls, she keeps springing from one suspect to another, absolutely convinced every single time that they are A or Ali's killer. When she had that breakdown about Garrett being released on the charges of Ali's murder, it just made me think that she desperately wants someone to take the blame for it so that she can be off the hook. I'm not necessarily saying that she did it, but I do think there's more to her involvement in it.
August 29th, 2012 10:09 AM
I just have one thing to say about last night's episode... OMFG!
Rank: Regular Character
August 29th, 2012 10:00 AM
I hate that they broke my Spiny heart but I am kinds not surprised. If you think from the beginning then Toby was a likely choice. We all knew Nate was the creepy stalked boyfriend so no surprise there. I still think Paige is hiding something.
August 29th, 2012 9:51 AM
OMG OMG was pretty much all I could say the entire night. When Mona was leaving back into the looney bin and they showed the person in the hoodie, I was like "you beeter turn around and show the face or I am gonna be pissed' but did not expect Toby, i was like HOLY SH*T. My heart was racing the whole time, BEST EPISODE. Cause it still has be guessing:
*Caleb was acting weird the whole episode, how did he know Emily was in the light house?
*How did Caleb get shot? Did Emily shoot him, was "Nate" not dead yet and he shot him?
*Is Toby really part of team A or just trying to help or get info?
My girlfriend has a theory that actually makes me go HMMMMM. At the end of the episode before the finale we saw that there was at least 2 more A's besides Mona. She came up with the thought, what if there is an A for each of the girls?? Things that make you go HMMMMMM
August 29th, 2012 9:45 AM
i think garret is the other A. i mean A called emily told her "i owe you one" wasn't it emily's discovery of maya's real killer the reason garrett got ou of jail. maybe that's what A meant. i was shocked as hell when i saw toby in that hoodie. i love spencer and him together.:(
August 29th, 2012 9:05 AM
god, i love spencer and toby, i was really disapointed when i saw him as A. But than i remembered that one scene from season one, when Spencer is running and she sees Toby in that alley, and he was crying because everyone were avoining him and giving him the hard time because everyone taught he killed Aly. Remember that? If he was on A team, you really thnik that he would care for that? People on A team are evil and cruel, people on A team wouldn't cry in some dark alley, so i honestly don't thnik he is one of them.
August 29th, 2012 9:02 AM
i think Toby is on the A team but the protect the girls and trying to figure out who Mona is working for, but the question is how long has he been on A team, cause Toby and Spencer are like one they love each other every much, and he maybe called Emily to tell her to get out of the house and at the end when the girls got the call "Emily i owe you one" what does he/she mean by that i'm still trying to figure that out myself i got confused when i heard that from A, that was probably Toby and he is still on the Liars side but working on double side to protect the girls... i hope i'm not wrong, cause i love Toby and Spencer together their my favorite couple and i don't no else with Spencer or Toby..
Rank: Recurring Character
August 29th, 2012 8:55 AM
@Niki
- If Toby is an accomplice with Mona then
who was the 'RED JACKET' girl in the last
season finale?
Ans: Last week we saw 2 A's while Mona was in the hospital! There are many A's to discover.
- When the girls entered the cabin, Paige
was not there...her hands were tied
together. How did she disappear in
minutes?
Ans: there were 2 cabins. The girls went to the wrong one.
- What made Caleb suddenly go to the
cabin?
Ans: he figured out that A is just screwing with them and thought A had Em!
- They haven't kept Ezra and Wren in the
show for no reason. Ezra has become
boring and Wren needs to stop eyeing
girls below 18! There is definitely more to
them!
Ans: doubt they are team A!
- WHAT IS LUCAS's STORY? Ans: hopefully we find out in S3 part 2!
August 29th, 2012 8:50 AM
Did anyone else notice the rocking chair in a's lair I noticed it but didnt want to put two and two together Toby working with mona I think he either thinks spencers guilty or working some agenda
August 29th, 2012 8:43 AM
I have a few question...
- If Toby is an accomplice with Mona then who was the 'RED JACKET' girl in the last season finale?
- When the girls entered the cabin, Paige was not there...her hands were tied together. How did she disappear in minutes?
- What made Caleb suddenly go to the cabin?
- Is Emily apart of the A team as she loved Allie and love can make you do strange things? :s (I hope I am wrong)
- They haven't kept Ezra and Wren in the show for no reason. Ezra has become boring and Wren needs to stop eyeing girls below 18! There is definitely more to them!
- WHAT IS LUCAS's STORY?...still unanswered by the show & what was in the negatives which Aria had stolen from him?
Not satisfied at all! Just more questions! :(
Rank: Extra
August 29th, 2012 8:41 AM
I'm still not sure that this wasn't some kind of red herring but if it isn't then there has to be another A. First because I don't think Toby would ever wear a jacket like the one whoever visited mona at the end of season two had and there's something i found odd too in this episode. If we already knew the identity of the other A (A.K.A. Toby) why would he use some kind of voice modifier to get those tickets to the Halloween party?
August 29th, 2012 8:40 AM
I was sort of hoping that Ezra would be the 'BetrAyer'....but God forbid they make perfect little pedophile Ezra bad! Sheesh. Enough with those two already..move on. And saying that Aria should 'grow up'. UM...she's 16yrs old! Stop thinking she's going to act like an adult just because she's sleeping with one. She is just a teenager and she's acting like it.
Poor Spence - oh well - move on. I don't think Emily shot Caleb...why would she do that? I think Nate got up and took a shot. Guess we'll have to wait.
Rank: Regular Character
August 29th, 2012 8:33 AM
toby...is A. god i hated it when they revealed that. spencer and toby are my favorite couple on the show and they're the only second couple ever i have ever shipped on a tv show. my first ship was dair on gossip girl and that was totally massacared and now spoby is headed that way too. i always thought toby loved spencer earnestly and with all his heart, i just hope that all that is not made to look like a lie and fake and toby has some genuine reason to be in the A team. please it seems im cursed and i can never get my ships to last. Alas!
August 29th, 2012 8:17 AM
Maybe Emily shot Caleb so she could say it was Nate who shot Caleb, because they were afraid the self defense story wouldn't stick..
Toby begin on the A team was a really big shock to me. I suspected him in the first season, but didn't still think it could be him. So I still don't really believe it until I see more of him. I do like it that we now know a bit more than the liars do. Can't wait for Halloween and January.
And the Ezra-Maggie story.. I don't really care.
August 29th, 2012 8:08 AM
I laughed so much when Hannah says to Caleb with the lamp at hand "I almost killed you" and Caleb says "With a pink furry lamp Hannah?!" :D (Btw, he has a key to the house???)
I also liked the conversation the girls had at the start of the episode at Spencer's house trying to point to Paige being A. The girls where having an analytical conversation just like we analyse all things together lately in the comments. I felt connected. lol.
August 29th, 2012 8:07 AM
BEST EPISODE EVEEEER!
So Jenna had seen Nate and Maya together as a couple. She did not trust him when she learnt that he was lying about being a cousin?! Or did she saw scarrier stuff???
Caleb could have shot himself so that Emily had a reason (for the police) to stab Nate. Like, they were fighting (Nate and Caleb) and Emily stabbed Nate to save Caleb after Nate shot him. If the police had found Emily killing a guy they would think Emily was a killer (in general, I mean they'd think she killed Ali and others). How would Emily prove that Nate was trying to kill her?
Toby was probably the one who called Emily and told her to leave and she had a minute before Nate went back in bringing wood. He was following Emily to keep her safe I hope. I was sure about Toby being on the A-team but I hope he and Mona became part of the A-team to help the girls.
I laughed so much when Hannah says to Caleb with the lamp at hand "I almost killed you" and Caleb says "With a pink furry lamp Hann
August 29th, 2012 7:00 AM
okay my emotions right now.. OMG!! it's actually funny that I saw it coming. I found it weird how Toby would just disappear to somewhere or the other and I was just thinking you know how he was the suspect in the first season and then his name got cleared, i dont know it made perfect sense for him to be on the A team but yet I just.. he's one of my favorite characters! AHHHH!! Also how did Caleb get shot? Didn't Emily kill Nate? And if she didnt and he was able to get the gun and shoot Caleb, did Emily jab the knife in him again?
Rank: Recurring Character
August 29th, 2012 6:50 AM
I can't believe they destroyed SOBY! I really loved them! They are so great together and she loved him so much! Why do we have to break her heart, just after they slept with each other! :(((
I'm glad we will see now how A works behind the shadows! :D
Okay he was the obvious choice but just liked Mona he was on mission "A" and than he was shown to be part of the Team!
I remeber they were on Toby hunt at the start of the show but I don't remember why they stopped. oK Em believd he was innocent but was that enough! Now I have to reWatch S1!
Ezria drama is getting on my nervs.
hanna and caleb are sugar sweet, and who shoot Caleb? Toby?????
August 29th, 2012 6:07 AM
I knew Toby was A from the minute i saw his face when he hugged Spencer..YESS!! I'm so glad Toby is A! It makes perfect sence, and i love how tv-shows make perfect sence! :D
August 29th, 2012 5:38 AM
OMG I WAS THINKING OF SCREAM RULES THE WHOLE TIME TOO!
August 29th, 2012 5:29 AM
its getting too muddled. seson 2 (Part one) someone frames ian for alis murder and pushes him off the bell tower to save spencer and then takes his body for it to be found a few weeks later with a suicide note that has secret messages A sent to the girl. if A either killed Ali or they know each other to make the note. . The seasons 2 (part one ) final A sends the liars out to find dr sulivan but leads them to Alis murder weapon which they planted but garret and jenna knew about that and that it was going to be there like they planned it to and they admitted attacking ali but they didnt kill her they left her someone else buried the body. so mona and toby are working together to get garrett out by framing paige then nate confessed to killing her
Rank: Extra
August 29th, 2012 5:15 AM
Hi all!!as i was reading the other comments it came to my mind the time that mona was about to leave Rosewood and Wren convinced hanna to keep her there.. what about Wren???and in the 11th episode we saw 2 in hoodie..was mona one of them??or she was in the clinic and 2 where out there?? Sorry for my english :)
August 29th, 2012 4:55 AM
I know this is a little off-topic and random but two things in this episode reminded me of the rules for surviving horror films from Scream (film series).
1. Always watch who you sleep or have a relationship with aka never have sex. (For example, Sidney & Billy and Spencer & Toby).
2. NEVER...NEVER...turn your back on the villain. 'Never ever assume the killer is dead!!!!!!!!!!' (in my Randy Meeks (Jamie Kennedy's) voice.)
August 29th, 2012 4:36 AM
If this was a different kind of show I would guess Emily shot Caleb. She might have been in shock and shot him cause he saw she killed Nate and she didn't want anyone to know. of course this would have been irrational but people who are in shock are not rational at all. anyways this is not a likely scenario in a show like this cause they have a thousand more insteresting explanations.
Maybe it was Paige who escaped from the cabin. It was dark at times and she was in shock as well, so she might have thought Caleb was Nate, afterall she had no clue that he was there!
The only one having a motif to hurt him his Wren: he may or may not be on the A team (but I guess he is and that's how Mona got that pass), but he definitely wants Caleb out of the picture so that he can have Hanna all to himself.
The whole gun situation was very predictable, how Marissa Cooper of Caleb... I thought he was smarther than that but that's probably what was needed to make the storyline work.
Rank: Recurring Character
August 29th, 2012 4:07 AM
Everyone seems to think that Toby is doing this to protect the girls but wake up- he is evil. From the beginning.
He probably killed Ali. I never really understood his tattoo of the date of her disappearing anyway.
We are talking about someone who stole a BODY from a grave!! Someone who pulled all of Ali' s teeth just to scare Emily. He took the picture of the body bag and sent it to Spencer so clearly it was him. He is bad and it's gonna get even worse.
Mona just gave the web site name so the girls would think it was Paige so they'd think that she is A. And they needed Maya's bag for some reason.
I'm actually happy that we got someone who could really pull this shit of as A.